who got the better of the wild-habs trade?

time for a new poll that is near and dear to my heart.

I think both team have upsides in this trade.
The future will tell who lost it.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8471678

pouliot has 9g 9a in 65 career games. when you watch the guy you think he's going to produce and then he just doesnt. although it can be difficult when you're centering a line with boogaard and weller, like he was for much of his time with the wild last year.

I think this is a trade that could benefit both teams, and both players.

You know you're going to get about 20G year in and year out with Latendresse, but he wasn't having a great start to the season.

Meanwhile, with Pouliot, you have the potential for more than 20G, but you also have the potential to have a complete bust on your hands.

I'm more of a conservative trader, so I say Minnesota wins, but it's trading a fringe 2nd/3rd-liner for a potential 2nd-liner, so whatever.

Neither team wins this trade.

Pouliot is a bust (as so many Wild first rounders have been) who will have incredible pressure on him moving to Montreal.

Latendresse is a kid who never had to work in junior and because of that hasn't put in the work in the pros add to that the fact that he can't sakte doesn't help anything. Word is he is an increible problem in the locker room and had worn out his welcome with his teammates

If I had to i'd give the advantage to Montreal. Because Pouliot has more up side and this deal will likely knock some sense into Lapierre who was apparently developing a lot of Latendresse's bad habits both on and off the ice.

Also what does Pouliot being French-Canadian have to do with anything? So is Latendresse.

'benoit pouliot' sounds more frenchy. that is an upgrade in the eyes of habs fans everywhere.

huh?
Guillaume Latendresse is one of the most French names anyone could have. (spoken from someone who is half French Canadian)
Maybe they pronounce it weirdly in the US (they usually do with French Canadian names) but you can't get a more French name then Guillame

Pouliot isn't even actually from Quebec. He's an Ontario boy. Latendresse is from small town rural Quebec, can't get much more French then that.

Crazy Americans and their analysis of French Canadians. haha

the official 'most frenchy sounding name' list here in america goes like this:


1. francoix

2. benoit

3. marcel

4. guillaume

etc

so, as you can see, i was correct in my statement that benoit pouliot is more frenchy sounding.

IslandersGM wrote:

Pouliot isn't even actually from Quebec. He's an Ontario boy. Latendresse is from small town rural Quebec, can't get much more French then that.

Crazy Americans and their analysis of French Canadians. haha

yeah, but that misses the point.

hahaha, Francoix??

You mean Francois? hahaha Americans are hilarious when it comes to French Canadian names.

The point is pressure in Montreal. You can't get any more cultural pressure then a small town french boy named Latendresse (which is part of why he didn't succeed in Montreal)

IslandersGM wrote:

hahaha, Francoix??

You mean Francois? hahaha Americans are hilarious when it comes to French Canadian names.

oh yeah...

then what is a

Quote :

The point is pressure in Montreal. You can't get any more cultural pressure then a small town french both named Latendresse (which is part of why he didn't succeed in Montreal)

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'francoix' is a spelling error, my good man. those who cast stones shouldnt mistype 'boys' as 'both'.

btw, hockeys finest source, eklund, is reporting that the habs have serious interest in horton and are willing to send a 'significant defensive prospect' in return. subban? weber?

bure_HOF wrote:

'francoix' is a spelling error, my good man. those who cast stones shouldnt mistype 'boys' as 'both'.

btw, hockeys finest source, eklund, is reporting that the habs have serious interest in horton and are willing to send a 'significant defensive prospect' in return. subban? weber?

PK Subban and four first-round picks, of course!

Guillaume is the most french name ever, I never heard an english-speaking person say it right.
I'm 100% french-canadian and like the isles gm said, Pouliot is a french-canadian but from Ontario which differ a lot for us Quebecois.
Mike Ribeiro is nearer to our heart and he doesn't have a french name.
You have to have been born in Quebec to be considered a real french-canadian.

PS. This ain't my opinion, only reflecting that of the Quebec population.

Quaesitor wrote:

Guillaume is the most french name ever, I never heard an english-speaking person say it right.
I'm 100% french-canadian and like the isles gm said, Pouliot is a french-canadian but from Ontario which differ a lot for us Quebecois.
Mike Ribeiro is nearer to our heart and he doesn't have a french name.
You have to have been born in Quebec to be considered a real french-canadian.

PS. This ain't my opinion, only reflecting that of the Quebec population.

Exactly.
You're 100% correct on two points. That Joe was off on. 1. Guillaume is the single most french name in the NHL, and 2. The pressure in Montreal has nothing to do with how french your name is. It has everything to do with where you are from. A Quebecois is going to have significantly more pressure on him playing in the bleu, blanc et rouge then anyone else. Which is why guys like St. Louis, Luongo, Brodeur, Briere, etc love playing home games in Montreal but never take the opportunity to go play for the Habs.

IslandersGM wrote:

Quaesitor wrote:

Guillaume is the most french name ever, I never heard an english-speaking person say it right.
I'm 100% french-canadian and like the isles gm said, Pouliot is a french-canadian but from Ontario which differ a lot for us Quebecois.
Mike Ribeiro is nearer to our heart and he doesn't have a french name.
You have to have been born in Quebec to be considered a real french-canadian.

PS. This ain't my opinion, only reflecting that of the Quebec population.

Exactly.
You're 100% correct on two points. That Joe was off on. 1. Guillaume is the single most french name in the NHL, and 2. The pressure in Montreal has nothing to do with how french your name is. It has everything to do with where you are from. A Quebecois is going to have significantly more pressure on him playing in the bleu, blanc et rouge then anyone else. Which is why guys like St. Louis, Luongo, Brodeur, Briere, etc love playing home games in Montreal but never take the opportunity to go play for the Habs.

::sigh::

can you really be "off" when you're joking?...

Eklund is talking about the habs trading Gomez to Florida...
I think this guy never got one trade right.

bure_HOF wrote:

IslandersGM wrote:

Quaesitor wrote:

Guillaume is the most french name ever, I never heard an english-speaking person say it right.
I'm 100% french-canadian and like the isles gm said, Pouliot is a french-canadian but from Ontario which differ a lot for us Quebecois.
Mike Ribeiro is nearer to our heart and he doesn't have a french name.
You have to have been born in Quebec to be considered a real french-canadian.

PS. This ain't my opinion, only reflecting that of the Quebec population.

Exactly.
You're 100% correct on two points. That Joe was off on. 1. Guillaume is the single most french name in the NHL, and 2. The pressure in Montreal has nothing to do with how french your name is. It has everything to do with where you are from. A Quebecois is going to have significantly more pressure on him playing in the bleu, blanc et rouge then anyone else. Which is why guys like St. Louis, Luongo, Brodeur, Briere, etc love playing home games in Montreal but never take the opportunity to go play for the Habs.

::sigh::

can you really be "off" when you're joking?...

You Sure can joe...you sure can. haha

Quaesitor wrote:

Guillaume is the most french name ever, I never heard an english-speaking person say it right.
I'm 100% french-canadian and like the isles gm said, Pouliot is a french-canadian but from Ontario which differ a lot for us Quebecois.
Mike Ribeiro is nearer to our heart and he doesn't have a french name.
You have to have been born in Quebec to be considered a real french-canadian.

PS. This ain't my opinion, only reflecting that of the Quebec population.

Interestingly enough, those same people want nothing to do with Canada.

I have French-Canadian blood in me (Iroquois, at that) as well as British, and would just as soon not have any part of either. Quite happy being from Ontario as just another hated Leaf Fan.

Skwid wrote:

Interestingly enough, those same people want nothing to do with Canada.

I have French-Canadian blood in me (Iroquois, at that) as well as British, and would just as soon not have any part of either. Quite happy being from Ontario as just another hated Leaf Fan.

Separatists are a minority among Quebecois. The vast majority are glad to be Canadian.



I’m confused Skwid, Iroquois and French-Canadian are two very different things. The Iroquois integrated with the British and have a long standing rivalry and history of war with the French in Canada.

Sorry for the history lecture, It’s just a pet peeve of mine when people have misconceptions about these heritages. I’ve actually got blood of all three in me. (as well as Irish and Scottish, a true Canadian mosaic haha)

I have watched the 3 games that Latendresse has played for the Wild and just purely from that viewpoint...the Wild have a major steal on there hands...Latendresse has played better in these games that any that Pouliot ever played for the Wild....